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July 13, 2010 – “I hear Your Signals” was heard
by Admin on Jul.13, 2011, under Documentation, Locally, Releases, Sounds
One of the primary goals in the Ableton Colorado User Group and all of my (Marc) activities is to raise awareness inside the growing genre of Electronic Music. I know that everyone gets more than their fair share of Facebook invites, Twitter messages offering a free iPad, and so on. This is very much a distraction when trying to find where the good work, innovative people, and real blood and sweat has been invested in music.
In my travels I see the best musicians often keep the smallest crowds. Some of them break (Bela Fleck for example), but this is rare. The juggling of the true art form and promotion and marketing is difficult.
Mark Mosher continues to do an exceptional job at producing intelligent and valid music while maintaining a solid social and professional standing inside the realm of music, most particularly electronic music. I have had the opportunity to learn from him over and over again.
So it was one year ago today when Mark Mosher released his second album “I Hear Your Signals”, a follow up to “REBOOT”.
These are complimentary works in the science fiction Signals Universe concept album series. They are a story of alien invasion. “REBOOT” addressed this story line from the human point of view and the following album, “I Hear Your Signals” spoke form the alien perspective.
I have frequently played both albums during our Meet Ups, as I keep these works on my portable devices. His “Sounds from a Distant Outpost” Ableton Live pack is an exceptional work and has contributed to a few of my personal creations. All of these releases are of a similar theme and I have nothing but respect for people who create a vision and idea and then spend years, sometimes decades, creating the body of work.
Do not forget how Mark is an important blogger and resource in electronic music. This genre is often considered the genre of [insert format you love or hate here]. House and Techno variants fill the large clubs, Dub-Step is a current rage, Drum-n-Bass will always be around, people will continue to argue of what IDM constitutes, the dark and noise music will continue, and people such as myself will enjoy what technology has to offer and engage in pushing the envelope.
Mark Mosher on the other hand works as an electronic musician – a creator of sound and music. His knowledge and love of sound and synthesis is coupled to a solid musical background and experience the predates laptops and computers as the Lingua franca* in music.
So we celebrate the Mark’s work and look forward to his next chapter.
I salute him and his dedication.I thank him for his knowledge and contributions to the greater environment. I am honored to have gotten to know Mark better over the recent years and I consider him a friend, resource, and dude who wears a cape (super hero).
More work is coming, I am sure of that – stay tuned. Until then, here’s where you can find Mark and his work:
- One Year Later on Mark Mosher’s site
- Modulate This!
- Sound Cloud
- Reverb Nation
- YouTube
* Lingua franca in the context of stretching the idea in this article has been sheet music, the record, and word of mouth. Now we use computers as instruments, studios, communication portals and the internet is a big part of this shift in the sharing of ideas – all facilitated by computer technology.
Meet the Makers – Alesis-Akai-Numark Free Event
by Admin on May.31, 2011, under Knowledge, Locally, Meet-Ups and Gatherings, News, Sounds
Sonic Sense Electronic Music Symposium
Featuring DJ, controller, and electronic music selections from:

Alesis, Numark, & Akai
RSVP LINK
When : Tuesday June 7, 2011 6-9pm
Where: 1500 West Hampden Ave, Suite 3-H Sheridan, Colorado, 80110 (This location is a little tricky to find – take a look at the Google Map link)
Directions :
Coming from the North:
I-25 South to Sante Fe South to Dartmouth.
West (toward the mountains) on Dartmouth 1-2 blocks to Platte River Road (First Light).
South (left) on Platte River road. 6 blocks to curve under highway.
Pull into lot on right. You’ll see our sign.
Coming From the South
Santa Fe north to Dartmouth.
See “From the North” above.
Coming form the East/West:
Hampden Ave (285) to Santa Fe
Santa Fe North to Dartmouth.
See “From the North” above.
Sonic Sense is a Denver based music equipment company that serves some of the most respected gear for audio perfection and modern music needs.
This is an ALL AGES event to meet, greet, and test out products form these manufacturers.
Evening highlights:
- New Rack Serato Controller DMC2
- Micron with I/O IO Dock for iPad & Ableton Live Light
- DM8 Pro with TransActive Drummer Monitor
- MPK49 and QX49 49-key Controllers
- Numark NS6 Controller
This FREE ALL AGES EVENT is a really fantastic crossover for the manufacturer representatives and the electronic music community.
DJs, controllerists, key players, and other aspects of the consumer electronic market will be at your fingertips!
I (Marc/DJSNM) will drop some demos using the Akai APC40 (featuring new my new template – simplified and stronger and re-released!!!) plus a final “full rig” demo using the Alesis Ion in conjunction with my scratch-box technology to close out the evening as a demonstration of livePA approach and post processing featuring the Scratch-Box.
I will also be available to answer any other questions regarding gear and Ableton through out the evening. If you have anything you want to know or check out come down and get in touch with the reps.
Please RSVP only if you are going – we ask this so we can not waste food and beverage and support the event as best as possible.
The schedule and stations:
DJ Equipment:
- Numark NS6 4-Channel Digital DJ Controller and Mixer
- MixDeck All-in-One Controller
- DMC2 Rack-mount Serato Controller
Electronic Music Production:
- Akai APC40
- Alesis Micron with I/O Express & Ableton Live Light
- MPK49 and QX49 49-key Controllers
Electronic Drums:
- Alesis DM8 Pro with TransActive Drummer Monitor
Schedule:
- 6:00: Introductions – Meet and Greet
- 6:30: General product overview
- 7:15: Hands on with the gear
- 8:20: Alesis DM8 Pro Demo
- 8:30: APC-40 Demo by Marc (aka DJNSM)
- 8:50+ Drawing and Wrap-up and Ion scratching
If you have questions or comments please feel free to contact me directly using marc [at] CreativeElectronica [dot] com
–M
Demystifying sub-bass and why I doubt it exists
by Marc on Apr.13, 2011, under Knowledge, News, Sounds
Recently I had a number of conversations on “what do you use for sub-bass”.
I have a few answers here’s the popular ones:
- I don’t think you understand sub-bass and audio.
- I don’t.
- I duplicate my bass track and offset one by a few microseconds.

Huh?
Let’s build this up. I will start at the wikipedia entry on subbass (as of 13Apr2011). Specifically this quote:
Sub-bass is a term used to describe audible sounds below 90 Hz and extending downward to include the lowest frequency humans can hear, typically 20 Hz. Sound systems often feature one or more subwoofer loudspeakers that are dedicated solely to amplifying sounds in the sub-bass range. Sound below sub-bass is called infrasound.
If you want to stick with this fundamentally broken definition, go with it, stop reading, and don’t talk to me about sub-bass.
Now for the truth and logic.
The “sub” element generally refers to “below”. So your sub-floor is under your floor, a subway is under the “way” aka road. If something is sub-standard it is below the standard.
So that definition (and the hard core etymological roots) dictate that sub-bass is a “below bass frequency(ies)”.
So what is bass?
Humans generally can hear down to 30hz, 20 hz is pushing it, 10 is the bottom and isolated. Yes, you can feel those frequencies, but not necessarily hear. If you hear something at 20 hz you are hearing formant, extra noise, or elements that bump energy into normal hearing range.
You can hear 20hz when you have an LFO at 20hz applied to another (audible tone).That idea is dubious in nature, but important to mention.
The standard bass reference is the instrument that holds the name “Bass” guitar. Using a standard tuning the low E bottom note (the actual low E) is ~41 hz. A standard tuned 5 string bass guitar sees the low B at ~31hz. (info via wikipedia).
According to The Mixing Engineer’s Handbook, Second Edition (ISBN # 1-5986-3251-5) Bass Guitar has a bottom of 50hz, a kick (bass) drum bottoms at 80hz, organ and piano have “fullness” at 80hz, the voice has fullness at “120hz”.
If you search on the internet for a bit you will come up with a kick/bass drum frequency range of 50-120hz.
More debunking!
I have a significant amount of experience in car audio as well as other audio formats. My last system (I stopped only due to theft) has these stats:
- 1000 watts class A FET amp
- 2 x series 1 (basic speakers rated at 80 watts each) 8″ speakers
- 7th order enclosure (nominal 4 cubic feet)
- 34hz free air resonance
- faithfully reproduces 20-150hz
- measured at 140-150 db no distortion
- blew out 2 front windshields from bass
- could make myself or any passenger ill, really ill, in 30 seconds using bass reference test signals
- unable to insulate the CD player from vibration to actually push speaker harder
- quarter bounce test on the trunk. 12″ no problem!
So that is one of many “street cred” on bass. Why do I mention this? Because in engineering a system and reproducing sound the speakers are applied in ranges. In the most simple scenario, as well as the most common, you will have bass, mids, highs. There are middle categories, but that is just splitting hairs.
In developing a system (car, home, and venue) in three ranges you will use crossovers. A crossover removes certain frequency ranges in an audio signal. This is applied to sound as a large power system will not have many speakers (usually none) that can cover the full frequency range (20-20k hz). So the bass speakers get only lows, the tweeters get only highs, and you scoop the mids for the midrange speakers.
Makes sense.
So, let’s look at how professional audio applications mechanically define bass.
The following information is from 3 random selections (first Google results offering technical specifications) for car audio crossovers.
1.) PYLE Wave PLXR2 Crossover specifications state “Low Pass Frequencies : 90 Hz, 50 Hz, 180 Hz” where these numbers represent the point where the crossover takes effect.
So at a 90hz setting the slope of the crossover will be applied thus diminishing the signal strength above 90hz and effectively only allowing 90hz and below to pass through (thus a bass pass).
1b.) This same Pyle unit also has a “Bass Boost” – where the specifications state “Bass Boost Frequency : 45 Hz, 80 Hz, 120 Hz”. (at those frequencies you can add 0-12db).
2.) Parts Express Subwoofer Crossover is a 4 OHM (load) passive crossover that applies a 12db/octave slope to frequencies above 130 Hz. In other works, this simple passive crossover circuit states bass is 130hz and lower.
3.) Lanzar OPTI Drive OPTID100 Crossover is an active crossover with adjustable cross over points. So we need to use the boost as a definition of bass. That range is 40 – 400 Hz
I can pull out stats like this left and right. Bass, by any reasonable definition, is audible. Sub-bass is not. Thus my favorite answer from above:
I duplicate my bass track and offset one by a few microseconds
Meaning, I employ REAL SUB-BASS by stacking and offsetting 2 bass frequencies to create subtle phasing. This generates REAL SUB-BASS frequencies similar to the LFO-ish tone of a 1/2 step (flat 9). These frequencies are very low.
Another REAL SUB-BASS method is to apply an LFO to your bass. The common practice calls for a chorus effect. Octave dividers also perform in a similar fashion (oh, some fun math in dividers!)
Conclusion
Sub-Bass is nothing more than a misnomer used by people who either “don’t understand sound” or who are looking to be special. There are isolated references for sub-bass here and there, but in the larger professional scope (and I could go on forever) bass is generally considered to be 30-150hz.
The bass heavy music that saturates the scene is typically 50-80hz. That is called bass, not sub-bass, just bass.
Thanks for listening. Feedback welcome.
–Marc
[[[edit / update]]]
Peter with Livid pointed out Sound Traducers ability to generate true high energy real sub-bass. Yes! They are out there, I have played with them, they will void any and all warranty on everything, including the building.
These “speakers” have a few names, but they all function on the same level. In short, they are the copper coil+magnet for electricity (get ‘cah electromagnetic action ON!) as in a speaker. But instead of moving a speaker or cone, you strap these buggers on the floor, wall, couch, whatever. The result is your couch (example) IS the speaker. This is, in a simplified sense, how piano (sounding boards) make strings louder.
In the case of the piano the strings vibrate, they are strung across a bridge (general term) that has a high solid surface area contact to the sounding board wood. That wood in turn amplifies the sound. Same general methodology used for a violin, guitar, etc.
And your door. That is why your little knuckle is enough for the dogs to hear when they are our peeing on your garden.
So using sound transducers, your floor (or whatever) becomes the speaker.
Alternatively, you can use ST’s filtered (optional) and 180 degrees out of phase (required) to cancel out waves. And with some math, good sampling equiptment, and tight audio engineering you can manipulate bleed, room volume, and isolate freequencies for removal. Total audio crack. But I digress.
Thx Peter!
April showers us with music!
by Marc on Mar.31, 2011, under Locally, Sounds
Lot’s of good electronic music coming up! Here’s a quick run through of a few events!
This Saturday April 2, 2011 at the Ogden EOTO with Signal Path. (public Facebook Event) -- how about a super cool tour teaser! Ticket Info
Got Bass is taking over the Fox tonight (March 31, 2011) Check out the new video when you are there!
We are kicking off Red Hot Coll -- a dedicated Down-tempo // Chill out // Sexy Music // Slow Disco project celebrating DJ, controllerism, and live musicianship! We, don’t have a cool video (yet). But we have a bitchin’ vintage logo. Our next show features Drop Logik, Raw Russ, Ginger Perry (Ginger Chaser) and DJNSM (me).
This Friday 2 events in the same area for FREE!
First -- the Whomp Truck who just got Best Party from Westword (and good friends of the effort here) are planning on Bass destruction at 7th and Santa Fe (art district / art walk). They are calling this “Ballerado” featuring Cache Flowe, Jantsen, S.P.E.C.T.R.E. and Dirt Monkey. Facebook Event
Then right around the corner at 719 W 8th DJNSM (me) and Drop Logik will be throwing down some new PA system crush at Lucid Gallery. Facebook Event (we are playing on Friday for Art walk -- not the reception)

We are not on the flyer - and that we are cool with that!
Don’t forget about Electronic Tuesdays -- a bunch of us will be hitting the next one.

(send me an email about your Ableton music or interesting electronic music event via marc [at] CreativeElectronica [dot] com)
Back From the SXSW – Thanks Austin!
by Admin on Mar.23, 2011, under News, Releases, Sounds
I will decompress on SXSW more soon, so let’s get into the happenings.
Local super hero Cache Flowe is part of the project Brim Liski and there is some new visual awesomeness abound. Take a look at this work:
Via GlitchDrop Bass From Above is released vie our good friend E at SubSynthesis -- here’s the Band Camp Page for the project. (lots of coverage out there Afromonk)

Denver Bass is still excited about the launch of the new site, and to celebrate their success here is EP 1 available for free download on Soundcloud (or megaupload)
More NitGrit stems are available, this time some legacy data -- here’s the nuts and bolts via Afromonk. Have fin, I just got my *.zip!
Via Gearjunkies.com Aquasky join forces with Loopmasters to launch Monster Sounds -- this is one of the better, cooler, and worthwhile sample companies out there (and I have used them all). Sorry for the editorial lean, but I chase results form companies who operate fairly in the marketplace.
DJNSM APC40 Template Released for free (beta)
by Marc on Mar.01, 2011, under News, Releases, Resources, Sounds
Thanks to everyone who came to our last meet up – I am aiming to decompress soon.
For now I really wanted to put the link up and state that “it is uploaded”.
LINK FOR APC40 Template (all the data)
I have included a few platters, some fighters, and the manual. All the “stuff” form the meet up. Support is available via email and the GitHub repository.
There will be a series of videos released very soon documenting how everythign works, so stay tuned!
In and not out – Agoraphobia makes good music
by Marc on Feb.22, 2011, under News, Releases, Sounds
Been looking for a reason to use Agoraphobia in a post. This is as good as I have found so far, some sort of skewed reference to basement production and killer tracks.
We welcome local super-star Bobby Collins’ new album form Cold Busted.
Feel free to stop on by and visit Bobby’s Soundcloud account or take a listen here:
Our next meet up will open the discussion on end game practice. Mark Mosher has a contribution on the topic in so far as his performance is concerned.
Via Gearwire.com, Spectrasonics updated the Omnisphere -- I know many people out there who love this suite.
News Flash, editor slips in a link to CV gear!
New Pure Magnetik release (they come ofeten and are pretty cool -- like the company!) This episode -- Microtron! (or PM-70)
Ever need to reamp and can’t find a good solution? Here you go!
If you do live PA or any production outside the box, you need this in your tool kit yesterday!
Looks sexy, but can it make a good cup of coffee?
SOS reports on the Babyface shipping.
I was here:
I also own a Nord, love it!
On the topic of free -- FREE SYNTH LOOPS!
On the topic of “I was right” (indirectly). Fat sound is in the hardware, add this to the “I told you so” file. Carl Cox live sound and FOH commentary.
How about an APC80?
The Colorado Electronic Music Tidal Wave Continues to Swell
by Marc on Jan.26, 2011, under News, Releases, Sounds
I am amazed at how our area is spinning more and more good electronic music. Case in point is the (currently free) release from Alex B via Paper Diammond “Levitate”. Download the *.zip from Pretty Lights Music here.
Ben Samples has not been asleep at the wheel either – here’s some new remixes available. Your teaser from Mochipet (who was just in town)
Some other local music, hot – hot – hot:
Some stuff from c.db.sn – his production skills are so cool. Looking forward to a presentation from him soon!
Some ventures are all about bass. The Whomp Truck is a cult of bass, this is from their stream.
Bobby C Sound TV is all about fun music. At least for me, do you agree?
The Digital Connection comes via Ricky Shine – ambient, some what blipt, and decibel heavy on the bass
Keep supporting local music! Denver is growing like mad and these are but a few of the artists.







