Our Next Event!
27May – details coming.
Tech Leaning on the wall update
by Admin on Mar.25, 2011, under Knowledge, Locally, News, Resources
Kickin’ it off – FREE drum pack – SOG has the details.
CDM points out a killer Max4Live granular editor. Here, listen:
Just a ton of Launchpad links over at Binary Alley.
Passing of a legend – Korg founder moves to next dimension. CDM covers the details.

photo via CDM
Still, Peter is KILLING it, here an article on Euclidean Rhythms in Ableton MIDI Clips. Based on the Euclidean Algorithm – fun stuff.
Umm…drool. Vermona releasing a new synth at the ‘Messe. Gear Junkies reports! A seeming follow up to the PerFourMer – a rare high quality consumer release of a 4 voice synth. I always wanted one.

So, uhhh, what makes a new instrument? Again, CDM takes the big issues!
Cuteness from Focusright. – a small half rack USB breakout. Gear Junkies shows us the scoop!

Small reliable and affordable interfaces are hard to find. I would ove to explore this one more.
Finally, Mark Mosher paid a visit to the west coast via the Art Institute of California/Sunnyvale. Mark was visiting and performing with Robert Edgar. Here’s one of a few posts on the topic.
Pre SXSW post.
by Marc on Mar.14, 2011, under Locally, News, Resources
Not sure if I will be able to get another killer post out before I leave. But I will update from SXSW. I am visiting with Livid Instruments and Dubspot (Austin), and a few others. Should be fun! Here’s the digital flyer (this is happening on Thursday by the way…)

See me at 2:15 after Livid! I am releasing all scratch box info free to the public as well as all my results. This event happens on THURSDAY!
Test Celemony Melodyne for 30 days and master it the easy way via Gear Junkies article.
Some people asked me about the Octatrack (skip the video). Micah Frank has dome some early work, you can check it out here.

Make Fat : Thermionic Culture launch The Freebird 3 -- 3 channel valve EX in a modular. Yummy!
Remix : These are always happening.
- Shingo Nakamura & Kazusa – “Move On” Remix Contest
- Mauro Picotto ‘Alchemy Records Festival’ Contest
- Bonnie Pointer Remix Contest skip the registration *.zip
- Robert Babicz ‘Remote Kiss’ Remix Contest
- “You Do” by Daji Screw and Kate Lesing
AWESOME! circa 1944 Vocoder:
Mark Mosher / Modulate this has some announcements:
- 10k on Soundcloud
- Concert Announcement: Robert Edgar & Mark Mosher Live @ The Art Institute of California/Sunnyvale, March 17, 2011 5-7PM
- Reminder : http://patchlab.modulatethis.com/ is an innovative idea releasing and sharing patches
This weekend -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E.
And we launched Red Hot Cool.
(Busy! I hope you can show us some support -- we are working hard to change the face of music!)
DJNSM APC40 Template Released for free (beta)
by Marc on Mar.01, 2011, under News, Releases, Resources, Sounds
Thanks to everyone who came to our last meet up – I am aiming to decompress soon.
For now I really wanted to put the link up and state that “it is uploaded”.
LINK FOR APC40 Template (all the data)
I have included a few platters, some fighters, and the manual. All the “stuff” form the meet up. Support is available via email and the GitHub repository.
There will be a series of videos released very soon documenting how everythign works, so stay tuned!
Simpler – Compression – The End Is Near!
by Marc on Feb.10, 2011, under Locally, Meet-Ups and Gatherings, News, Resources
Meet Up Scheduled!
As short as possible:
Simpler, the little brother to “Sampler” as presented by James Tobin. Compression continued with Mike Stacey. End Game ideas : Templating and how to dial in your live set for the long term at the Walnut Room (map) 7pm 21+ FREE.
Two ways to do this – I chose:

Over a “Rea End” joke.
LONG VERSION:
Simpler:
Simpler is the lite “Sampler”. James will discuss the difference between samplers and synthesizers and cover all the basics of LFOs, Envelopes, and filters. This is a critical introduction to advanced sampler ideas. Also, James will introduce synthesis techniques in samplers as well as using field recording in the sampler environment.
Compression Part 2 :
Mike will continue his discussion on compression types and flavors in the Ableton world. There has been some requests for more on sidechaining. This is a great discussion to attend as a primer for our Mastering Workshop (to be held at a professional studio soon!). If you have questions or want to know what is in the compression tool kit this is your destination presentation.
THE END IS NEAR!
Templates are the end game of live performance in Ableton. Why end game? Well, you need to get your methods and sound dialed in before you can hit this topic.
Chase Dobson and Marc Wei will introduce the topic, discuss the difficulties, and transition to a round table discussion on the idea of templates.
This can not be taught in workshops, no book can be written. Templates are a reflection of each artist’s sound and style. So we will not close the book on the topic, instead a dialog will be started on one of the most interesting ideas in Ableton.
A good template can allow :
-Endless sets so you stop to load a new set
-DJ your sets as if they were records (or CDs)
-Decrease your CPU tax by examing needs and increasing efficiency (chains+chain selector anyone?)
-Consolidate your effects needs
-Why you render files for performance
-Much more!!!
SPECIAL BONUS MATERIAL!!!
Marc has close to 1000 hours invested in his OHM64 template (no, really), and it kicks a$$! This template has been ported to the APC40 (others coming). All attending people can have an advance copy of this template (YES FOR FREE! QA help is so loved!).
OMG OMG OMG! We are bringing the Petting Zoo to Artopia. Bobby C, c.db.sn and the Ableton Colorado crew are installing a new Petting Zoo – NOT TO BE MISSED!
Beginner Jump Start to Editing MLRV 2.0 with Max for Live in Ableton
by Marc on Feb.09, 2011, under Knowledge, News, Resources
A good friend contacted me via Facebook regarding how to edit MRLv2. I had no idea and refused be denied the opportunity to break a perfectly good patch. So here is the walk through. So this is about opening up a regular Max patch when you only own Max for Live.
20110210 UPDATE #1 – some clarification form Cycling 74, I will paraphrase:
- “Max Runtime is just a non-editing version of MaxMSP and it’s installed anyways when you install the Max editor”
- C74 pointed out that “that there is no mlrV 2.0 MFL device” Correct! My point and appreciation for Max/Ableton is that we can get into the nuts and bolts for a patch via M4L. It may not run (smooth or at all) in Ableton, but if that red font on a dark blue is hurting your eyes and you want to change it…you have the tool kit.
Follow up : MLRv2 may open and run in M4L but it is a stand alone patch. Via M4L and other packages, it is possible to open up Max patches and edit them. Not for the faint at code, this is some serious under the hood work.
So…
This is a fast step by step walk through to get under the hood of MLRv2 via M4L and should work on other patches as well.
20110210 UPDATE #2 More Update on Max, MaxMSP, and Max Runtime via Cycling 74 – thx to C74 for a killer response and being fast!:
When you buy Max-for-Live, you have to install a full install of MaxMSP in order to make it work. When run inside of Live, a Max-for-Live device uses the MaxMSP libraries to function, but it’s actually running inside of Live. When you click the edit button, this takes you into MaxMSP to edit the device. All Midi and Audio and API info is bussed between the applications in this situation in order to keep it seamless.
Being an owner of Max-for-Live allows you to open up MaxMSP from the edit button via Ableton, and it works almost like if you owned Max. There are some important hinderances in this scenario, like MaxMSP doesn’t have its own MIDI or sound outputs. It all goes through Live, so only a currently edited MFL device will make sound or receive MIDI events.
Max Runtime is installed alongside the full MaxMSP install. We also provide it as a separate download for convenience. Runtime allows people who don’t own Max or MFL to open and run patches, but it doesn’t allow you to unlock the patch. We provide this so that people can distribute Max patches to people who don’t own the software, like mlrV 2. It’s also possible to build a standalone application with a full MaxMSP install, but that’s a little more effort.
### Requirements
Max Runtime (not actually required. Comes w/Max for Live)
MLRv2 (bottom of page)
Max for Live (and Ableton)
1.) Install Max Runtime as needed. Don’t open it. (again – optional, shold be installed
2.) Unpack/zip MLRv2.
3.) Open the folder “xsample”, choose your OS flavor, read the README.txt file and do as it says.
4.) Open Ableton (with Max for Live installed already)
5.) Drag a basic Max patch into the work area:
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putting this “Max Audio Effect” on an audio track or creating a new one to look like this:

6.) Click the “edit button on the Max patch
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7.) You should now see that Max MSP is open and you have a window for the patch:

Notice - this is Max running "inside" Ableton, not the freestanding run time version.
8.) Next open the MLRv2 patch (in MaxMSP initialized in Ableton). File->Open->browse-to->”_mlrV.maxpat”
9.) Wait for this to load up. My current MacBook Pro took about 20 seconds…once loaded…you will see something like this:

10.) Click the unlock button on MLRv2:
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once unlocked you should see something like this:

12.) Next – toggle into the patching mode from presentation mode:
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and you will see something like this:
This is where I sign off…you can now break things.
Please send me corrections / etc to info@abletondenver.com – I am a programmer by trade, just not in Max.
Womp Truck, MIDiPad (not), notes, and optical compression expanded
by Marc on May.28, 2010, under News, Resources
So we had a killer turn out for ILL.GATES – thank you everyone. If you need help or have questions send it into the community!
Some new friends and the whomp truck is in news.
Is this cool yet? Nope, I don’t think so. But not at Line 6′s fault (Jobs is the issue) There is no new media, no mention of iPad (a great gauge to the alert level of L6).
The new (Apple iPhone OS dev agreement still cripples this hardware / software app). Keep watchin, keep hoping, or maybe generation 2 iPads will fix it?
So how about an early trickle of one a slate on Android?
Minimal techno tutorial on YouTube via Dub Spot
Back to Android. There seems to be some ground being made into audio, CDM really gets it good in this article. The ALSA and other libraries are there and totally ready for exploit. Android based multi-touch control is SOOO close – I would drop an iPad in a second for a good Android device (I want to hack). Until then I will use the iPad.
Swing it with your python hanging out Python based swing (thx Cache Flowe)
Some friends at ATX Ableton drop some comment on the Livid block.
I want to get High (pass filter) so High (pass filter) – I use high pass filters in my analog processing (post Ableton) with great success (thank you Borat)
FEA Labs is making a bunch of opto-compressors. I have not used this brand, but the collection looks nice. Dual band optical compressors are wonderful for Ableton as they can keep your sound stable after the D/A conversion.
Dual Band Optical Compressor-Limiter
Dual Band SMX Optical Compressor
Opti-FET Compressor
Let’s drop some serious WTF on Opto
I can (and often do) lecture on compression. In general (and especially in Ableton) they are A-B-U-S-E-D!
Digital compression is a joke, sorry, it is true. Once you work with real compression (mechanical compression is best – using the room to settle your sound) or a killer strip or tube line or a dedicated unit you look at the digital versions as effects processors that mimic the real deal.
Now you can get a lot done with the digital versions, most modern engineering is done in the digital realm (enter Multi-band compressions aka mastering). But this is not the type of compressor I am talking about.
Optical compressors use light to compress the sound.
This is cool because you can not overdrive light (unlimited head room and range). A (real vacuum) tube or valve compressor is close. But the compression is essentially happening with the conversion of sound to a electrons (pure energy) in the context of the vaccum tube (Thermonic Transmission via Wikipedia). This is not optical compression. Although it is often sold as such (ART marketed some of the pre’s as optical at one point – they all got returned).
Here is result #1 and the explanation is not quite developed yet, so here is an a fast diatribe.
In essence your sound is converted to light (energy). No, not SPDIF/ADAT light, but a simple modulation of light based on your input signal.
In total darkness (or else things leak and sound bad) the light is transmitted in open air to an optical cell where it is captured. The optical cell is more or less a solar panel.
So your sound goes form controlled voltage (normal analog audio signal) to light (pushed through a LED let’s say) and the received by a solar cell. While your sound travels as light there is no way you can run out of head room in that environment. So by controlling the “gain” of light you compress or attenuate the signal as light where the curve, control, and performance is very easy to deal with regardless of your sound source.
Usually there is no attack, knee, or ratio. Most of my (many) optical compressors have 2 knobs – pre/post or input/drive.
The change is subtle, but when you are plugged in a loud speaker system or a picky input (no headroom) optical compression is the way to go.
The coloration is minimal, spikes are usually eliminated, dynamic range stays almost unchanged (as long as you are mellow and not driving signals hard). The optical compressor is just damn awesome for controlling your output as it goes from you D/A to PA.
This is very subtle stuff, but the investment is 100% worth it!
The number one place I used opto-compressors in my live keyboard rig was before and/or after filters. If you start stacking filters you can have certain freqs stack and gain 30, 60, 90db (yeah I said 90db,non-linear math my friends).
This would save the crowd’s ears from, well, being destroyed.
If anyone wants to mess around with opto-compressors contact me before the next meet up and I will bring a few. (I collect compressors).
Sample Selection walk through in Ableton Sampler
by Marc on May.26, 2010, under Knowledge, Resources
I just got a question regarding how ILL.GATES used sample selection (pretty slick stuff) to “scan” through his 128′s.
It is not too obvious unless you really know your stuff in this area of Ableton.
So here is a walk through to allow you to get a “magic knob” to select samples inside the Sampler instrument/effect.
1. Drop in a MIDI track.
2. Drop an Instrument Rack on the MIDI track (this provides macros)
3. Drop a “Sampler” in the instrument rack. So everything should look like this:

4. Place your samples in the sampler. You can drag groups into the “Drop Samples Here” area. (ILL.GATES used 128 samples and the “128 term” because there are 128 “slots” as MIDI is 2x2x2x2x2x2x2 = 128.For the example I will use 4 samples and by the end you will understand how to use 2,4,20, 0r 128 samples.
4b. Open up the “Zone” tab and you should have something that looks like this:

Note : MIDI starts at zero!!! So 0 to 127 is the range! This is called “offsetting” or “zero offset” and is common in anything digital.
5a. Click on the “Sel” button / square to the left of the piano roll (“Key” is selected in my shot where “Key”, “Vel”, and “Sel” are grouped together).
5b. Initiate “Map Mode” and assign the area in green where the piano roll was to your macro. It should look like this:

5c. Close Map Mode.
6. Adjust the “Zones” (blue horizontal lines under the piano roll / sample selector area to be 1 (one) note and not all notes. It should look like this:

Helpful tip: Adding samples and adjusting the zones can be a pain. You can duplicate or alt/option drag to copy. This will copy the zones. Then you can hot swap samples. One of may approaches available.
7. Wrap it up! This step is IMPORTANT anytime you are NOT USING 128 samples. This is also why macros help so much. Here are the sub-steps broken down:
A. MIDI Map your controller to the Sample Selector macro. You can use CC’s or a series of note values (make sure your series of notes are the same quantity as the number of samples you are intending to use). Here is a shot of the MIDI Mapping on the Sample Selector macro:

B. Edit the range of your mapping to match the number of samples. Remember that MIDI starts at 0 (zero). Or did I already mention that? Here is what is would look like mapping 4 samples starting at position 0 (zero):
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Complete!
No, really, your done. Now can scan through samples like ILL.GATES was showing in our recent workshop. (this is just handy stuff!)
I hope that helps! There are a number of features in the Sampler that are bitchin’ but this should get you over the hump real fast. You will also need to have a MIDI clip running to hear your results, but that is another story all together.
–Marc
Electronic Music Missionary
[EDIT] Here is a great fast moving video that is the root of this post and discussion:
ESKAMON: “Fine Objects” – Ableton Tutorial by ill.Gates from ESKMO on Vimeo.
ILL Methodology this weekend and some happs and apps
by Marc on May.20, 2010, under Locally, News, Resources
ILL.GATES this weekend!
22may2010 : City Hall
Start Time: Saturday, May 22, 2010 at 9:00pm
End Time: Sunday, May 23, 2010 at 2:00am
Location: City Hall Amphitheater
Street: 1144 Broadway
City/Town: Denver, CO fbook link
23May2010 : Ill Methodology Workshop (21+ @ walnut details Details and RSVP $50)
24May2010 :Ill Methodology Workshop (18+ @ woudl shop details and RSVP $50)
Pre pay using using this paypal address for ILL.GATES: thephatconductor@gmail.com or contact Ableton Denver with questions!
What to bring to the workshop.
Here’s The Phat Conductor:
ESKAMON: “Fine Objects” – Ableton Tutorial by ill.Gates from ESKMO on Vimeo.
Back to the post!
Brining improv back, this certainly does look interesting – improvisation is an area of great exploration and focus for m. There are a few key elements worth noting:
-The basics – “Solo over form” and “what is form” in Ableton
-As a solo artist
-In conjunction with synchronization
-In the “live band” context and how to cue and communicate these ideas as well as scripting got them in the sheet music.
This is a great article form our friends over at Audio Tuts providing a help list for the “pre-mastering” stage. A good read or at least a good scan.
Damn, fabric driven controller, no seriously – if my fashion designer wife and I collaborated for the purpose of sound this is someplace we could visit:
fabricmachine from Kathrin Stumreich on Vimeo.
The Quote from Dave Smith (classic) :
“As I always say, as a designer, if you design something digital, you spend all your time adding slop in. If you’re designing analog, you spend all of your time trying to take the slop and the noise out.”
My iPad is coming (I know, I suck, 100% hypocrisy) Rather than spam out a full page of low quality vids of demos of apps here is the Top 25 according to Audio Tuts
Oliver found some Kaoss hacking – not my thing but kinda cool.
I am out for now! More in a bit! –M
Some thoughts on MIDI sync and the ramblings of a MIDI alarmist?
by Marc on May.20, 2010, under Knowledge, News, Resources
This article has been long overdue. The subject of MIDI sync is generally misrepresented. Use of wireless is pushed as a solution and not a liability to the masses. This is wrong.
Of all the questions I get MIDI sync “how-to” is by far the one common thread. Ableton offers a standard solution that relies on technology that is over 25 years old. The protocol is NOT perfect and you need to think before you incorporate MIDI synch in your live set. (note the lower case “l”)
First the APC and other controllers
The APC is a USB class compliant MIDI device. There is a proprietary handshake that “syncs” – NOT the same as MMC/MTC/SMTPE by a long shot.
The APC sync is orientated mostly towards the “handshake” where there is a “sync” with the GUI in Ableton and the hardware (what and why LEDS light up).
If you want to MIDI sync generally you use a MIDI cable or SMPTE type of clocks (often BNC connection)
Now for the bad news
Professionally MIDI sync does not work well. When you DO see this live understand that there is a ton of work invested in making this work reliably.
Using MIDI to sync 2 laptops is flaky at best. The success depends on where your tolerance stands. Personally my set is disrupted at 10ms or greater lag/error.
This problem is, in short, because Ableton and most MIDI apps operate in master/slave mode.n other words there is a leader and follower of time. The follower will “resync” (re-orientate) at every defined interval (sync 2 machines and watch the BPM – it is in constant flux. I have seen +/- 5bpm).
It gets worse –
To sync 2 boxes you will need an audio or MIDI break out box. If you go cheap you will have even more issues. (crappy timing crystals and bad electronics are par for the course)
Sometimes this stuff works well or well enough for certain apps. I have jammed with people via and it is okay for me at times. I usually lead because my sh!t is so tight (insert bad joke here).
Okay, now it gets even worse –
If you want to do it right start saving your lunch money. To sync live for a large gig using a Master / Slave can be suicide (not enough interest in going through the why). So the way you should do it is via a central time code generator and slave all machines. This practice is the agreed standard. The least expensive unit is over $1.5k and that still needs more hardware to generate MIDI time. (Big Ben)
And then it gets worse again –
Wireless MIDI = suicide live.
Midi over Wireless (any format) = suicide live .
Why ?
Simple – any script kitty can crush you with a smart-phone in a few minutes (so bad you will not be able to reconnect for the rest of the evening).
You will never find out who.
I am a programmer by day, I HAVE to be aware of how networking operates. Any use of wireless LIVE is suicide – I may sound alarmist but there is no joke here.
Opening the door a little :
I can crack the best wireless encryption in under 5 minutes period. From there you are destroyed (that is an understatement).
DoS (denial of service) type blasts will shut your set down.
Despite today’s 802.11i robust security network (RSN) advances, WLANs remain very vulnerable to denial-of-service (DoS) attacks. While you may not be able to prevent DoS attacks, a wireless intrusion prevention system (WIPSWIPS) can help you detect when DoS attacks occur and where they come from… source and other stuff here
Packet sniffing will allow me to take control of Ableton remotely with a little work (injection – not my specialty – but give me a few hours…). A malicious script kitty will do something like drop 10hz blast to blow the sound system or 17k @ +20 db and make everyone deaf. You are not getting any gigs after that issue…
One solution lies in OSC via MIDI over ethernet (not wireless). But Ableton does not natively support OSC and the middle ware leaves lag. I have not bench marked this protocol, but I hear good stuff.
Sorry to kill any ideas but I am a firm advocate of professionalism and any wireless connection is a HUGE liability. (There is a sub-conversation on whitespace/4g and the dynamic mapping for interference that is slowing down the release of this awesome spectrum for data communication and how this can crush your sync ideas)
Apparently Moldover was hacked in a show via similar methods. If you leave wireless on during your set you are opening up to problems (Apple remote script is something I saw on the radar – I don’t care because I kill wireless when performing).
Many people may disagree with me, and I accept this fact. When they get crushed by this type of method they will not know how, what, or why this happened. So my argument is usually going to fall on deaf ears.
How much of a risk is this?
Not sure, but there is more than enough risk out there to NOT do it. As your show scales your rick increases – more people leaves a greater chance of someone messing with you. Wireless can have a 1/4 mile + range. In any city that puts a few thousand people minimum in range of messing with you. Using a Pringles can I have pulled in wireless connections over a mile away up in the mountains.
There are a few wireless methods you can use that are more secure, I have a friend who IS all IT security and knows this stuff inside and out – he agrees with me 100% and the safe ways to do wireless in a performance are out of my scope (and I work on this stuff all day everyday).
So who the hell am I?
I have been doing this ‘stuff’ for well over a decade. I was teaching MIDI and synthesis professionally in the 1990′s. I started programming in the 1980′s (I am old). MIDI sync is fine in the studio, risky live, and a bad idea as the central part of your set. If you must use it live you need to refactor your set and hardware for reliability and use only high end equipment.
I have not mentioned EM blasts, interference, or jamming. Each is pretty easy and will shut you down.
There is a long list of DO-NOTs – too many to even begin discussing.
For the record – MIDI sync has GREAT results when you are syncing 2 hardware units. As soon as software comes into play you increase your potential problems. There is a huge spectrum of possibilities between success and failure with a billion variables. There is no “one” answer, only best practices.
I advocate the tightest rig, best security, and absolute professionalism when playing live.
All you people using hacked copied of software stand to hurt the whole community.
However in the basement – do what ever you want!
Why the alarmist view?
Working in the programming and development environment for many years now I HAVE to know how to hack. I am a “white hat” hacker and this is part of the job description. White hat is all about hacking your applications looking for problems. I am NOT an “black hat” hacker – I do not hack out of malicious intent or to hurt people. Please be clear on this item!
Again, back to my professional experience – buy me some good scotch (not single malt please) and I will indulge you on things I know and stuff I have seen that will scare the mortal crap out of a anyone. From Facebook exploits, XSS craziness, how to sniff wireless, and a long list of weird stuff I would only talk about in person and leave out of print period.
Please allow this article to be a reference form the conservative side of technology.


